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This is a list of some frequently asked questions (and their answers) to the lists.

For a FAQ list for questions relating to imported MkIVs look at /imports/faq.htm

For a list of commonly used list of acronyms look at acronyms

My antenna doesn't go down (or up) anymore. How do I fix it?
If you still hear the motor 'whirring' when you turn on or off the radio chances are the wire in the mast broke, or the mast is excessively bent. Both parts can be replaced pretty easily and inexpensively from your dealer. If you don't hear a motor at all, then it's probably gone south, and your best option is probably to get a generic antenna from Walmart or Radio Shack (which are ~$40 vs. $150 for the Toyota one). Install involves removing a little bit of the interior, but is otherwise pretty painless.
I'm looking to buy a used engine for my ## Supra. Where can I buy one?
Here's a list of places to try out. Prices vary between suppliers, as do warrantees and shipping costs, so try calling all of them to get the best deal. Typically engines come with ~30k miles and come with a limited warrantee.
I need to buy some Toyota parts, but the dealer down the street wants an arm and a leg for them. Where can I buy them for cheap?
Your best resource for Toyota parts and knowledge of them is Jeff Watson at Jay Marks Toyota. The number for the dealership is 1-800-327-2087, just ask for him and mention SOGI and he will give you the discount. Also check the SOGI site and your regional SOGI chapter to see if there are any other discount programs in your area, chances are there are.
I've seen all the pretty pics of other SOGI member's engine compartments and want to be just like them. How do you guys clean your engine so well?
Two basic things are required to clean your engine compartment, elbow grease and elbow grease. Some simple green, Mother's metal polish and A LOT of rags will help out also. Work your way from one side of the engine to the other, cleaning everything you can reach (and removing anything you can to be able to reach more) with the simple green wetted down rags. If you want a really shiny look, use Mother's on all metal parts and rub them until your rag comes away clean, but be warned, this can get addictive. Simple green is generally safe on all outside parts of the engine, but be more careful if you plan on cleaning the inside of the AFM (don't!, unless you remove the electronics) or other electronics. Some cotton balls and a vacuum cleaner might also be handy when cleaning out the area between the valve covers. Remember that this is an ongoing job, and expect it to take you several weeks of work to get the engine bay spotless.

Some also use an engine degreaser with a high pressure spray to degrease the engine. Although this is an effective method of removing greasy deposits on the engine, make sure to cover up all the parts of the engine which don't like water. (alternator, TPS, coil pack, ignitor, etc)

My car does random things like smoking on startup, overheating after I turn it off and being hard to start in the morning. Do I have a BHG?
Typical symptoms for a BHG are:
  1. Gradual loss of coolant.
  2. Overflowing overflow bottle after hard driving.
  3. Temperature increase when putting load on the engine for long periods of time. (going up a hill)
  4. Sometimes gurgling underneath the dash.

Symptoms 1 and 4 are common after a radiator flush/fill, or if one of your hoses is slowly leaking. Symptoms 2 and 3 are pretty sure signs that something is wrong. Either way, if you suspect a BHG, run down to your NAPA dealer and get a Block Tester. This is basically just a solvent which will test for exhaust gases in your coolant. Since a BHG means that coolant is being exposed to the combustion chamber, this is a pretty conclusive test. Remember that coolant is NOT supposed to enter the testing apparatus when doing the diagnosis.

The symptoms you described can be attributed to other things apart from a blown head gasket. (leaky valve covers and typical behaviour of a cooling system)

I want to make my NA Supra faster, what can I do?
A quick and dirty list of mods to do, in the order of easy-ness and effectiveness would probably look like this for all MkII and MkIII NA Supras.

Easy bolt ons:

  • Larger cat back exhaust. (between 2.5" and 2.75")
  • K&N FIPK or HKS Super Mega Flow air filter.
  • AFM Mod
  • Thermostat Mod
  • Headers. (PaceSetter, Jim Hall, or Doug Thorley)
  • Aftermarket Ignition (Crane, MSD, or Jacobs) (bump timing up)
  • Increasing Timing.

More work:

  • Port matching intake, throttle body, exhaust.
  • Port and polish head.
  • Lightweight flywheel.
  • Shave the head to increase compression.
  • Adjustable cam gears.
  • Custom cams?
It's hard to shift into second gear on my manual transmission without grinding, I have to gently nudge it in and it takes a while. Does anybody know what's wrong with it, and how I could fix it?
Chances are your synchronisers in your transmission are going. This is a relatively common problem with older MkIIIs and unfortunately is one of the hardest to repair. Repair requires the removal of the transmission (a long and hard job) and then disassembly of it, which requires special tools and is just as hard. All is not lost however! Many members have had very good luck switching their tranny fluid to Redline MT90 or MTL, reporting a complete 'curing' of the problem within a month or so. Give that a try first, and if that doesn't work, then start asking around to find out if fixing (or replacing it with a used transmission) is going to be reasonable. Members have also done the fix themselves, but it's a pretty involved process. Do not try using any 'snake oil' remedies, as these will generally only make things worse in our transmissions.
My hatch is leaking on my MkIII, I find standing water in my spare tire well, but I can't find where it's coming from. Where's the leak?
This a relatively common problem with MkIIIs. The most likely place for the water to be getting in is from the taillights, it drips in from the top seal then into the hatch. Removing them and putting a bead of caulk around them will guarantee a tight seal and most likely end the leak. Another possibility is the rear wiper motor hole. The rubber gasket there will get brittle over time and leak into the hatch cover. Replacement of that gasket will fix the problem.
I did the block test, and it came out positive, indicating that I have a BHG. How much is this going to cost to fix? How hard is it to do? What type of gasket should I use?
Ouch, too bad.. The very first thing you should do is to make your voice heard about your BHG. So do these two things before anything else:
  1. Call Toyota - (800) 331-4331 option #3.  CANADIANS Call: 1-416-431-8035 Mention Supra Owners Group International, VIN#, and mileage at which it/they (or symptoms of a BHG) occurred.

    MAKE SURE TO ASK FOR A CASE NUMBER.

  2. Register the Blown Head Gasket on our website! http://www.supras.com/sogi/BHG.htm (takes 1 minute - painless)

Now for fixing it. Depending on how severe your blown head gasket was, you'll need to machine the head and/or the block to give the new gasket a clean and smooth surface to seal with. You'll also need to check for warpage of the block/head, and if excessive, shave it down to make it straight. This type of job can be done by the dealer, or by a mechanic you trust, but both need to have access to a GOOD machine shop, as the quality of the machining is a big factor in how successful the gasket will be. Typical costs to do the head gasket are between $1000-2000, depending on the amount of machine work that needs to be done, and what other things get replaced in the process. A BHG is not out of reach for a do it yourselfer, but be prepared to have the car apart for at least a couple weeks if you've never done it before. Also, the success rate of home mechanics (who've never done it before) seems considerably less than those having the work done by a professional. The SOGI site has information on this procedure on the tech tips/mods page. As for the gasket type to use, it all depends on what your plans are for the car. If you plan on taking it above 300hp, most people would recommend a metal head gasket and even aftermarket head bolts (ARP). The stock Toyota gasket has been redesigned and has a high success rate now, so if your mods plans are relatively tame, then a stock head gasket should do fine, as long as you remember to torque to 65-70 ft/lbs.

A well detailed write up of the head gasket issue with MkIII Supras can be found on the SONIC site at: http://www.supras.com/sogi/generations/mk3_pmtn.html

I've heard about MHG (Metal Head Gaskets) and that they are a good way of making sure I don't get another BHG. Why are they more effective? What different types are there and about how much do they cost? Where can I get them?
MHGs are often more effective at sealing the head because they incorporate a 'bead' around the combustion chamber. MHGs are also a popular choice for those who have needed to machine their head or block, as they come in different thickness' to restore the original compression ratio. HKS and GReddy both offer MHGs. HKS' come in three different flavours, a bead type, a grommet type, and a stopper type. These range from worst to best in sealing, and from least expensive to most expensive.

More information on the HKS gaskets can be found at http://web.hksusa.com/headgaskets.html
GReddy also offers MHGs and information on them can be found at: http://www.greddy.com/engine.html

For a more in depth discussion of metal head gaskets (and the head gasket issue in general) check out SONIC's excellent write up at: http://www.supras.com/sogi/generations/mk3_pmtn.html

I'm going to change my exhaust on my Supra, what size exhaust should I get? Is bigger always better?
The first thing that determines how big your exhaust should be is whether your car is normally aspirated (NA) or a turbo. Generally, for NA cars you do not want an exhaust that is TOO free flowing, as the engine needs a little back-pressure to do its work most efficiently. In the case of a turbo, the goal is to have the most free flowing muffler possible, though increasing the size of the exhaust only plays a part in this to a certain extent. Generally, these guidelines hold true for most cars: (your results may vary)

For NA cars, an exhaust between 2.5" and 2.75" will give you the best results. The 2.75" exhaust will take a little away from your bottom end, but will return it on the top end. A straight through muffler is PROBABLY not wanted, as it will be too restrictive, however a Turbo muffler usually does very well. If you are putting out more than 300 hp, a 3" exhaust could provide a little more power.

For Turbo cars, an exhaust between 2.75" and 3" usually works best. Although some go larger, the gains are very slim unless very large (>400 hp) amounts of HP are present. The muffler should be as free flowing as possible. (as long as you can stand the noise)

OK, I've now bought a Supra...besides mods, what are the first things to do and to avoid to make sure my baby lasts for a long time?
  1. Register as a member of SOGI, you'll be eligible for discounts, and by having more members SOGI will be able to represent you better.
  2. Check to see if there are any recalls on your model supra, and whether it has been serviced for them. (the dealer will know by your VIN) Although recalls are rare, they can often land you some free labour/parts and guarantee that all known problems are taken care of. For example, 89-92 Supras had a problem with the expansion valve for their AC system, when fixed by the dealer they will also refill your AC unit with freon.
  3. As soon as you can switch your oil to synthetic. This is especially important with Turbos as the synthetic oils ability to stay on the parts after shutdown will reduce the wear significantly. Doing it yourself will give you a feel for the engine compartment. Note that switching to synthetic oil on older engines MAY reveal leaks (or even bad rings) which did not present themselves before, so consider that you might have to do some replacement of seals after switching to synthetic to keep it in the engine.
  4. The power steering flushes and changes are often neglected as part of the maintenance of a Supra. Unfortunately, it's a pretty important thing to do however, so as soon as you can change it out with some good synthetic fluid. The job is relatively easy (but messy) and tips on doing it can be found on the SOGI site.
  5. For you Supra to last it is critical that your cooling system is working optimally. A few steps will help make sure it's working correctly.
    • Clean out the debris from between the radiator and A/C condenser (the "radiator" in front of the cars radiator. Fin spacing in the A/C system is larger than that of the radiator, and as a result, things get through the one and not the other. Thus, you'll get blocked air flow by things you can't see. Unbolt the radiator and carefully push it back to see if you have this problem. If so, vacuum it out and brush the fins carefully before remounting the radiator.
    • Check for bent fins on the radiator, condenser, and if so equipped, the turbo intercooler and oil cooler. Not only will the function of these items improve by straightening out the fins, it'll increase air flow to items behind them (like the cars radiator).
    • Purge air in the cooling system. If you bought your baby from a dealer, more than likely they flushed the cooling system before putting it on the lot. This may introduce air into the system, and cause intermittent cooling problems. Park your car on an incline with the front tilted up slightly, remove the radiator cap when cool, run the vehicle until the coolant is flowing smoothly in the radiator, top off the radiator and the overflow, and recap.
  6. Keeping the interior and exterior clean will save you lots of money in the long run, replacing or repairing either can become very expensive.
    • Use a good-quality UV protector for the dash and other vinyl parts after thoroughly cleaning them.
    • Polishes for exterior should be safe for clear coat paints (as many Supras have).
    • All "rubber" weather stripping should be treated with a silicone spray to bring it back to life (and avoid unpleasant water leaks). Gently rub the silicone spray (NOT WD-40 or other things like that) into the weather stripping around the doors, targa (if equipped), hatch, etc.
    • Clean your engine compartment. Simple green is safe to use on most parts of the engine, and a clean engine will run cooler. Do NOT clean the inside of the AFM, as it contains sensitive sensors which are easily ruined.
  7. Manuals: Get one, especially if you intend on doing your own work! If you plan on doing your own work definitely get the official Toyota one. Generic manuals (Chiltons etc..) generally do a very poor job and bunch together different models, so we don't recommend them. Also get an owners manual if you don't have one, as it actually contains useful information. Both can be acquired from your Toyota dealer.
I seem to be leaking oil from somewhere, where should I look?
The most common places for oil to leak from (in order of likelihood) are:
  • Valve Cover gaskets.
  • Front and rear main seals. (You'll need to take your timing belt cover off to check the front one)
  • Oil pan gasket.
  • Oil plug gasket (did you replace yours last time?)
  • Distributor O Ring
  • Cam Seals

The best way to track down an oil leak is to clean your engine bay thoroughly, then drive for a bit and examine where the oil is coming from. (remember it flows down :) ) This is another great argument for keeping your engine spotless.

Ok, I've read all the nightmare stories about a BHG and I don't want to go through that. Is there anything I can do to prevent one?
There are 2 main ways to improve your odds of living a BHG-less life with your Supra. The first, is to have your current head gasket retorqued to somewhere between 65 and 72 ft/lbs. This will apply more pressure to the current gasket increasing it's odds of sealing correctly. The disadvantage of this procedure is there IS a risk of it ripping or unsettling your gasket, causing a BHG in the process, however most of the time the procedure is successful. The second, and more expensive (yet more effective) option is to remove the head and install a new head gasket, either a stock Toyota one, or an aftermarket metal head gasket. If you haven't suffered from a BHG yet this procedure is considerably less expensive than repairing a BHG as you do not need to machine the head or block or fix any other damage. Using aftermarket head bolts (ARP) will also lessen the odds of a BHG. Again, you should get the head torqued down to 65-72 ft/lbs. if you replace the head gasket. Finally, frequent coolant changes and cleaning of the radiator, as well as never letting the engine overheat will also help prevent this expensive problem.
What does the orange 'Museum' light on the left hand side of my dash mean? It's been lighting up.
That light means your coolant reservoir is starting to run low. The sensor is somewhat sensitive and it is not unusual for it to go off in hard turns even if it is up to the full mark. Filling it about an inch over the full mark should prevent this and doesn't do any harm. If you frequently have to refill the reservoir to keep the light from coming on, you have a leak somewhere in the coolant system. Check for leaking hoses, and try testing for a BHG.
I want to upgrade the speakers in my Supra, what sizes will fit in the various locations?
Here's a rundown of the stock speakers on the Supra and the largest speakers which will fit in those locations.

82-86
Factory size front: 3.5" Feasible: 4"
Into door (With some cut steel) 5.25"
Factory size rear: Modified 5X7" Feasible: 5.25"
Seen done (NOT recommended) 6X9

86.5-90
Factory size front: 4" Feasible: 5.25" (Barely)
W/ Custom baffle plate and cut steel 6.5"

91-92
Factory size front 91-92: 6.5" (Shallow) Feasible: 6.5"

86.5-88
Factory size rear 85.5-88: 4.5"
Factory size rear '89-92: 4.5"/3.5" combo

What aftermarket springs are available for my Supra? What kind of drop do they provide, and how much do they run?
MkIII
Man. Drop Obs. Drop Price Comments
Eibach's 1.5/1.5 1.8/1.5 ~200 Progressive rate
H&R 1.5/1.5 2.5-5/2.5 ~300 Linear rate
ST 1.5/1.5 1.5/1.5 ~150 Linear rate
Pi 35mm 35mm £100 Linear Rate

MkII

Man. Drop Obs. Drop Price Comments
Eibach's 1.5/1.5 1.8/1.5 ~200 Progressive rate
I'm going to replace the struts on my Supra, what brands do you guys recommend?
The 3 largest manufacturers of struts for the Supra are Tokiko, KYB and Bilstein (also TRD's supplier). For the MkIII, the Tokiko offers either a 5 way manually adjustable shock or a TEMS compatible 3 way electronically controlled shock. KYB offers GR-2s, which are relatively inexpensive and a little bit stiffer than stock. Tokiko adjustable shocks are still available for the rear of MkIIs, but the fronts have been discontinued. The HP shocks and struts are still available though and are pretty inexpensive. KYB also offers shocks/struts for the MKII. Finally Bilstein makes 8 way front, 5 front rear adjustable shocks. Although they are very expensive, they are supposed to be very nice as well.
Is the Supra dead? I read that Toyota was no longer going to import the Supra into the states after '98. Is that true?
Although it is true that Toyota is not going to be importing the Supra in 1999, there are rumours that a special model will be released in the states in the year 2000. This will either be a special edition of the current MkIV, or possibly the introduction of a completely redesigned Supra. However, this is all hearsay, so we'll have to wait and see.
I want to start doing maintenance (and maybe more) on my Supra. What would be a good selection of tools to get which would let me do almost anything?
Here's a list which should let you get into plenty of trouble. Buying a good socket set, or just a good quality tool set will get you the majority of these tools for the least money. Craftsman brand from Sears are warranted for life and are reasonably priced. Kits can even be mail ordered.

Engine Work

  • 3/8 or 1/2 socket set with associated ratchets. Don't' skimp on the quality of these as you'll be using them often. 6 point sockets are recommended, otherwise you're likely to strip bolts. Get some deep wall sockets while you're at it too. A range between 8 and 24mm will cover pretty much everything.
  • Get a small (3"), medium (8") and long (12") extension with a couple elbows for your ratchets. Nuts and bolts are sometimes hard to get to.
  • Set of combination wrenches. A set with sizes between 8 and 17mm should cover almost everything.
  • If you're pulling the head off, 10mm and 16mm hex head sockets.
  • Torque wrench. If you want to do the job right it's nice to have one. Get a good quality 'click' type with a range between 25-250 ft/lbs.
  • A breaker bar.
  • Phillips and flat head screw drivers. (small, medium and #2 large)
  • A couple ViceGrips. Spend the money and get good ones, this tool will save your skin more than once.
  • Stands and a floor jack. If you're going to be doing anything below the car, or ever doing your brakes you're going to need these. You can often find a set for pretty cheap if you look around.
  • An oil drain pan.
  • Lots of Rags and strong cleaner.

For Electrical Work:

  • A multimeter, for diagnosing problems.
  • Wire and a stripper for it.
  • A selection of connectors, and a crimper for them.
  • large and small wire brushes, in brass and steel.

Misc.

  • Medium and large(useful for removing oil filters) set of channel lock pliers
  • Spark plug socket and gapping tool.
  • Large needle nose pliers
  • Large set of regular pliers
  • Medium sized prybar
  • Mityvac(vacuum pump with gauge on top...useful for bleeding/flushing brakes, clutch, and checking vacuum)
  • Compression tester(make sure it has fittings for both spark plug sizes for later use)
  • Timing light
I have a ## Supra non-turbo (NA) how much would it cost to put a turbo on it?
For a MKII Supra, although a turbo has been put on a 5MGE, the more popular option is to retrofit a 7MGTE engine. This involves a good deal of custom fitting, and includes wiring a new harness, but it can be done, and the results are quite spectacular. Typical costs for those who can't do the work themselves is ~$6000 including the cost for the engine. Reg Riemer was one of the firsts to do this type of conversion, and for a price will offer assistance as well as the wiring harness needed to put the GTE in a MKII. More details can be had at: http://www.supras.com/~riemer/gtestory/ or by contacting Reg directly. (riemerr@cadvision.com)

For a MKIII Supra it's prohibitively expensive to try to put a turbo on your non-turbo (7MGE) engine, besides some internal differences (oil squirters), you would also need to get a whole lot of accessories to mount a turbo on it. If you really have your mind set on it, the reasonable, but still expensive alternative is to throw a complete turbo engine (7MGTE) into your NA.. Used engines can usually be had for ~$2000, and labour and accessories would probably add up to another $1500. Not a cheap thing to do either way, but if you're really attached to that Supra of yours, or your engine is on the way out anyways, it's a feasible alternative.

In the case of a MKIV Supra, although it is still an expensive option, it can be done, and has been done quite successfully. The single turbo conversion will be about ~$6000-$8000 depending on how crazy you want to get with it. Results of > 400hp are not unusual. The person to contact on details concerning this type of conversion would be Jarret Humphreys at Powerhouse Inc. (humfj@inu.net)

I'm looking to buy a used Supra, what problems should I check for?
We won't cover the typical steps to go through when buying a used car, other sources site those in more detail than we want to cover here and apply to all cars. These problems are more common with Supras, and will help tell the difference between a lemon and a great find.

Typical things to check on a MKIII are:

  • Blown head gasket. This is a pretty common one, sometimes the seller even knows about it and that's why they're trying to sell. Make sure to do a pressure test or a block test to know where you stand there.
  • Worn synchros. Is it hard to shift into second or reverse? If so, count on having to rebuild the transmission (or possibly use synthetic transmission oil) in the near future.
  • Bad Turbo. Try spinning the turbo, it should spin freely, and make sure there isn't a lot of freeplay on it. Either one of these means a rebuild is in the future.
  • Look for leaking oil on the engine block and below on the oil pan. Common causes are leaking valve covers or oil pan, but make sure you find out for sure which it is.
  • Water in the hatch. Lift up the carpet in the hatch and look in the spare tire well, is there evidence of water being there? If so then the hatch probably leaks, and rust might have started developing here.
  • Check for rust on the door handles and inside the fenders.

Typical things to check on a MKII are:

  • Rust, rust, rust. Hatch, especially the lower lip. Wheel wells, the rot can easily be covered by the flares until it is very bad. Lower corners behind rear wheels. Lower part of the doors, and areas around sunroof and fuel filler door. Spare tire well. Fog lights go bad too because of rust and are hard to find used / very expensive at dealer. The metal grille at the bottom of windshield is almost always rusted beyond repair, but that's just cosmetic and easily replaced if you were to ever come across a good one.
  • Differential. Listen for whine and feel for any play. It's not fatal but annoying.
  • Cooling system problems. Keep your eyes on the temperature when test driving and idling for a good while. If it goes above midpoint, there are some problems. MkIIs are not immune to BHG either so check for bubbles in overflow after hard driving. Radiators can be in a pretty gross condition because of the age of these cars.
  • Brakes. Changing the fluid and pads, and machining the rotors or getting new ones usually brings it back to the very good original specs. On used MkIIs the brakes have often been neglected to the state where you have hard time locking them, or the car may pull to one side/shudder.
  • Oil leak from cam covers. Just an annoyance, replace the gasket and you are set. Sometimes it's so simple as loosened screws. Exhaust side is first to go.
  • Front wheel bearings. Check for play in the front wheels when the car is off the ground. Bearings will either need a repack, or replacement.
I'm looking to get some new wheels for my Supra. What are the specifications for my wheels, and what stock wheels from other cars will fit on them?
MkI & MKII (interchangeable)

Stock, the wheels are 4 lug, and either 14x5.5 or 14x7. Any wheels off the 76-85 Celica/Supra line will work. The 'L' type Supra had 15x5.5 "pyramid" wheels which were the same design as the earlier ones, just larger, these can also be had from 85 Vans. People have put 17x8+9's on MkIIs, but they are custom made by Forgelines.

MKIII & MkIV (interchangeable, possibly)

The wheels are 5 lug, with 37 and 50 offsets respectively. MKIV wheels (17x8+9) have been known to fit on a MkIII without any spacers or modifications to the suspension, although this will reduce the overall track of the car due to the increased offset. If lowered MkIV wheels without spacers will also rub on the inside of the wheel arch on full lock. The widest tires which can fit without modification on an unlowered MKIII are 275's, but that is a very tight fit. Wheels from late model Lexus's (GS300, LS400 (93-94), SC300 (95+), SC400 (92-97)), 93+ Mazda RX7's and 90+ Nissan 300ZX's will also fit the MKIII or MkIVs without modifications.